Question: You
look fit, so why did you come here?
Lisa: I came really because
I am recently divorced and it was
the time that I was in the parking
lot, was almost a year that my
marriage had ended and I thought
what a great way, the weight loss
is a bonus, and I had weight I
wanted to lose. But really I thought
what a great way for me to end
that year that was not a good year
for me, is to clean out my body,
mind and spirit, kinda of just
spiritually, mentally, physically
do a wash and start new.
Question: So your prime
thing was really not to lose weight
when you came here but just to
have a healthier body?
Lisa: Yes, healthier outlook,
just again kinda of a renewal,
a you know stopping. This
is over now and I can start fresh,
from every piece of me. (Laughs)
When I came in
that day for a walk in I was given
a tour, and then I had an in body
and of course what I learned about
the in body I didn't, hadn't never
seen the level of detail before,
but again I was faced with this
huge body percent fat, that was
you know that was clearly in the
obese area from a body fat percent
stand point, which has huge implications
with regard to my health and of
course because I'm not really a
fat person and even then, even
though I had weight to lose, I
wasn't, didn't consider myself
a fat person. But that really
stuck as out as I was a fat person.
Question: So
when you first heard about what
the program was about, and what
you had to do to go through it,
what did you truly think of? Did
you think of oh my god I won&'t
be able to do this, or how difficult
this is going to be, will it really
work? What
was going through your mind?
Lisa: When I first heard about
the program and got the orientation,
and actually sat down with the
doctor and went over the program. I
was hesitant, it kinda of was intriguing
but I've been dieting long enough
in my life to think, to know, myself
well enough to know that when I
don't eat I'm cranky, and I'm not
pleasant, and it's just really
not a fun experience.
The
idea of doing that for two weeks,
when I've tried to do it before
and can maybe last a couple hours,
wasn't a very doable thing. But
I was pretty committed to again,
why I was there in the first place,
and with the notion that you know,
not everything is easy in life
and you just have to do this.
I think it was
the whole package of where I was
in my life, and what I wanted to
do, that I was going to give it
a shot. And
all a long, even with the pre-fast,
they explained the pre fast and
they wanted me to start my fast
concurrent with my menstrual cycle.
And
so I had two in a half weeks that
I pre-fasted, and the pre fasting
was a very positive experience
for me because I found that I was
eating foods that were really enjoyable
for me and new foods for me at
some level, because I had gotten
into a habit, just because of my
schedule of eating such processed
foods, that to really take the
time and plan and eat fruits and
vegetables and grains, I found
that I really liked them, and it
was really enjoyable.
The prefast
was a wonderful experience for
me and I lost nine pounds in the
pre fast, which was a surprise. Although
I will say that that first nine
pounds I felt great, I loved what
I was eating, and no way felt like
I was dieting or deprived, I felt
like I was eating wonderfully.
Felt great, high
energy, and even though I was losing
weight and I knew that from my
in bodies, that I didn't, my clothes
didn't fit any different, I was
kinda of surprised.
It was something
different and I think, I don't
know this to be true, but this
is my story about that, is that’s
because I was losing fat and not
water. And I was, and that's
what the in body told me, is that
when I first started losing weight
I was losing big fat weight. Not
water weight, not the wrong kind
of thing, I was losing fat weight.
Question: And how were you
feeling?
Lisa: I was feeling great, and
really really again, really liking,
and I know that sounds crazy, because
how can you be detox, or how can
you be kind of dieting in a way
and feel good about it. But
I have dieted in every kind of
way that there is possible,
and this was the first time that
I didn't feel I was on a diet,
and I didn't, and I also for the
first time felt that I could sustain
this kind of eating, that it could
be a life change kind of eating.
Question: And the fast part,
the first part of the fast part,
what was the most difficult thing
for you?
Lisa: The actual juice fasting?
When I started the juice fasting
the most difficult part was again
my believing myself that I could
do it, that it wouldn't be difficult
because I had history and so on
that would tell me that it just
wasn't going to happen.
My
children told me that they knew
I was going to be cranky, they
were not looking forward to the
idea of me fasting. So the
first couple days, I will say,
that what I missed most was actually
the physicalness of eating, the
chewing and sitting down at the
table and eating.
And it was, I
didn't know quite how I felt about
sitting down at the table and not
eating, although I did that because
I like to eat with my family. So
it was that you know actually lifting
the fork and chewing part that
I missed. And I was hungry, and
I would characterize the hunger
as its time for dinner right? Because
I'm hungry, hungry, and not beyond
that, so it was fine.
Question: That
was great! yea I went through the
same thing.
Question: Towards the end of your
second week tell me how you were
feeling?
Lisa: I was feeling good, and
I will tell you that every time
I would come in here to sauna I
would read about the fasting, there
is a book that they have hanging
out in the lobby that I would pull
in the sauna and read.
One
day, I think I was like twelve
days into my fourteen days, and
it was the first time that I started
paying attention to food, cause
I didn't crave food, I didn't really
miss, which again is characteristic
of me dieting is that I am thinking
constantly of the foods I'm missing,
and I didn't do that with this
and I didn't have a problem with
other people eating, I didn't,
the foods just didn't bother me,
but that I noticed that that day
I was at work and people eating
like, and I'm like, sniff, what
is that you're eating? What is
that, that sounds good. And I was
actually reading that in the fast
book that that's your body's way
of telling you that you are ready
to start eating again.
I thought
that was really interesting, because
it was kind of bizarre, and then
I read about after I had the feeling
rather than before, so it wasn't
power of suggestion.
Question: Now when you started
eating again, what did you start
eating and did you know what to
eat when you go back to eating?
How did you go back into the process?
Lisa: When I finish my fast, of
course before I finished my fast,
I met with them again and was given
the materials about what to eat,
and there is a fairly prescriptive
program in terms of what foods,
and they had me introduce foods
back almost as if like you introduce
a baby to foods.
So that you are
limiting, not necessarily in quanity,
although I didn't have a need to
eat quanity, introducing foods,
so I think the first day I only
ate fruits, and the second day
I ate fruits and vegetables, I
don't remember exactly what it
was but it was introducing foods
at a certain time and because again,
I had done this and been successful
I wanted to make sure, and I had
a little fear through reading the
books and so on that eating in
a bad way would cause pain to me,
that my body would react and so
fruits and vegetables and I think
you know on the fourth day you
know I had some grains and very
prescriptive, and I didn't eat
very much, continued to drink a
little bit of the juice, and it
was pretty simple that too.
Like
you spinach, and squash. Whats
my new favorite food? I can't think
of it right now, humice! Trader
Joe’s humice, it has low
sodium and low calories.
Question: Yea we do the same thing.
Lisa: Yea, it's my favorite.
Question: What was the first bad
thing you ate and did you feel
it affect your body?
Lisa: Yes, since I've been, I've
now been what 3, 2 months off of
my detox and off of my recovery
eating, and my eating habits have
changed dramatically.
I do, for
the most part, eat low sodium foods;
I eat much less processed foods.
I'm checking now instead of just
the fat content, which is what
I have been checking for years,
I look at fat, fiber, and sodium.
And so I making soups, instead
of buying soups and doing things
like that, and what I notice is
right around Thanksgiving when
I was on vacation, I kind of fell
off the wagon in terms of my eating
and my body doesn't like it.
I
don't drink anymore sodas at all.
I have had maybe one or two cups
of coffee since I started, since
I've been on the fast. I really
didn't wasn't eating any chips
or candy or, and the quantity of
food I wasn't out of control.
Over
Thanksgiving I had an opportunity
to do all those things, (Laughs)
and it doesn't, my body doesn't
react well to it. I feel bad when
I eat that way and not an emotional
bad, a physical bad it doesn't
react well to it.
Question: So, did you continue
that way or did you go back to
eating healthy again?
Lisa: No, I go back to eating
healthy of course, yea. I appreciate,
well I don't like feeling bad,
I appreciate the heads up that
my body has given me that that
doesn't work.
Question: Just about like two
more questions here. So many people
say that it's unhealthy to lose
weight so quick and that you'll
gain it right back. At any point
did you feel terrible on this program
and once you got back into regular
eating, have you gained all your
weight back?
Lisa: Okay, I also, I'm one of
the people that believe that one,
it wasn't sustainable and that
as soon as I started eating it
would come back. I was willing
to take that on faith, I was worried
about that once I was in it, and
after I was doing it, when I started
eating again.
And I think
that drove me a little bit to manage
my eating when I came off of, when
I started my post fast eating and
recovery eating. But I don't, in
retrospect;
I don't think
lost weight fast. I lost 25 pounds,
and of that 25 pounds I think 19
pounds of it is fat pounds, and
again because of the way I lost
it, I lost 9 pounds in my pre fast,
another 11 something in my fasting,
and then after when I started eating
I lost another 3, 4 pounds.
So
I didn't have that experience,
I'm now what three months out of
it, and I haven't gained weight.
Now I did gain some Thanksgiving
weight, but there's a reason for
that. And I have been eating in
no way do I feel like I'm on a
diet, but my eating has changed.
I don't look
at it as being dramatic weight
loss over a short period of time,
and yes it is and when it happens
over six weeks, but my eating habits
changed and my habits in general
changed, so it didn't feel to me
like it was unreasonable weight
to lose at the time.
Question: Last question I have
for you is when you have friends
and family members would you ever
suggest this program to them?
Lisa: I have, a million people
I've… and people were very
interested as I was doing it and… They
could see I mean because again,
I had energy I was in a good mood,
I had kind of a euphoric state
about it, and I will tell you that
I was in therapy during part of
it, because of my life circumstance
and my therapist told me that sometimes
that will happen, that because
you're just cleaning out everything,
that you do…
I felt
wonderfully. And I will say this
also this, and this isn't the question
you asked me but let me answer
it. Anyway is that, eating has
been an emotional event for me
in my life, and its a way for me,
that I have used to comfort myself,
to reward myself, to make myself
happy, or to acknowledge my sadness,
all of those things.
And
when I wasn't eating, so what was
really interesting about the juice,
the actual fasting, is that I processed
through my emotions pretty quickly
because I didn't have anything
to prevent me from dealing with
them. So I got through them
pretty quickly and that was really
beneficial and has given me a willingness
to continue to do that. Is
to not have food be the thing that
stuffs or gets rid of my emotions
for a time being. And that's
a long lasting impact.
Question: That's very interesting,
it's very true too.
Lisa: Yea. Yea.
Question: Yea, I was always an
emotional eater too.
Lisa: Who isn't? Yea.
Question: Anything else you don't
think I have covered that you really
think has impacted you or how you
would refer this to other people
or anything like that?
Lisa: Okay, well let me just say
that my experience overall was
wonderful, and one of the things
that was great, is actually coming
into this center almost everyday,
because I saw everyone almost everyday,
and being able to talk with people
along the way.
People that
were just beginning, people that
were talking about starting, people
that were pre fasting, people that
were in there fast, people were
post fasting, and people that are
well beyond that. And hearing
the same kind of things overall,
is people being kinda being excited
about it, and I think there's an
excitement also about people being
able to do something good for themselves,
just that commitment level I think
is…
So that was encouraging
and of course the staff was wonderful
and always available, and always
checking in and it felt like a
very personalized program.
Question: How are the cupping
treatments and the saunas?
Lisa: The saunas are great, the
cupping things are great too, I
love those. I loved, it was
very interesting, did you have
them? I had six cupping
treatments when I was there and
its just a weird thing, its kinda
of a funny thing, and of course
the first time I had like, what,
a hundred hickeys on my back (Laughs).
But the doctor
made some comments about where
I was more red, where the marks
showed up more is that my circulation
was bad, and also for instance
I had a lot of marks on my lower
back and did I have lower back
problems… and
I do.
And so I have
neck problems and back problems
sometimes, those kind of subsided
so those were the physical things,
other than those I don't really
have any physical things and even
those things were eventu... I
mean they were more kind of stress
related for me.
So as I went
I could see the physical ness of
my circulation improving, because
I stopped marking. But I
love the cupping I think its very
interesting, and fun, and kind
of feels good.
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